VISIONARY INTERVIEW | POWER TO THE PEOPLE | NOVEMBER 2008
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POWER TO THE PEOPLE | VISIONARY |11|2008
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Questioning culture and the status quo is not an idol exercise.
Nor
is it just the practice of philosophers and artists. As evident in
popular culture - the yearning to understand and articulate the self is
omnipresent.
Specifically, it is a practice of repeatedly revealing what reality and culture are now: shifting, mercurial and intensely sensed that is the primary obsession.
Asha Ganpat curated Boys and Power that exhibited at REDSAW gallery (of which she is one of the founders) in early 2008. Her
curatorial work is parallel to her art practice – choosing what is
valuable or safe to our emotional realities and re-imagining it in
sometimes discomforting but truthful and innovative ways.
In Native American, European and African cultures the trickster and the trick in oral history and literature is the story. Her presentation of Power by these four artists actually pushed us into a space of vulnerability and surprise. She is planning an exhibition titled Girls and Weakness in January and we look forward to her provocation of gender then.
VISIONARY presents Asha Ganpat’s Boys and Power.
This interview took place by e-mail October 2008.
- Noelle Lorraine Williams| VISIONARY | A Project of REBORN
Biography - ASHA GANPAT_ Red
Saw was founded in July of 2005 at 585 Broad St. Newark New Jersey.
From the early planning, the founders, Lowell Craig, Asha Ganpat, Seth
Goodwin, and Dave Smith identified Newark as an exciting location. They
wanted to work in conjunction with the present vibe of the artist
community and growing scene in Downtown Newark, to utilize the city's
accessibility and to further it's potential. With the intention of enhancing the current art scene, Red Saw has aims to exhibit and promote
both established and emerging contemporary artists. The four gallerists
take turns curating, inviting guest curators, and holding juried shows.
Within the interim of larger exhibitions, Red Saw seeks to hold
cultural events, Which will include all creative media, Such as film
screenings, poetry readings, performance art, experimental dance and
music. In addition Red Saw has invited artists to an open call slide
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POWER TO THE PEOPLE | BOYS AND POWER
ASHA GANPAT
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| Asha Ganpat is messing with your dreams of gender and power.
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"...Socialization
is a universal method which teaches the young to become their own
captors. I am my own captor, just as you are yours. There are
exceptional visual artists and other thinkers who have stumbled upon
the limits of their personal captivity.... After we experience their works, we are changed. " - ASHA GANPAT
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NOELLE LORRAINE WILLIAMS|One
thing that is interesting about your work as an artist and curator is
that you engage sex and gender throughout your work. However, it
doesn't seem to be a central focus but rather apart of a series of
ideologies including punishment, religion, morality, power and
international migration.
What was your impetus in organizing "Boys and Power?"
ASHA GANPAT|
I have had some difficulty understanding why contemporary curators put
together all-female or all-male shows. I see little need for gender
segregation in exhibitions and throughout life, often more than
others. (This does range from bathrooms with gender-based icons to
pre-marriage rites to clothing and make-up) I know that my views are
extreme when compared with the general populus', but they are the views
I have come to accept as the most enjoyable to have. To put it
lightly, I just can't see why it matters which bathroom I go into, or
with a bit more accusation, why one is for me and one is off limits.
Socialization is a universal method which teaches the young to become
their own captors. I am my own captor, just as you are yours. There
are exceptional visual artists and other thinkers who have stumbled
upon the limits of their personal captivity. This means they have
found yours and mine too, because we are together-socialized we share
many of these limits with one another. Then these exceptional people
create works which twist, trick and question our very selves. After we
experience their works, we are changed. What these artists are doing
is simply getting us to think more deeply than we had before. The
things we take for granted are put into light. This is the situation I
strive for with my own work. Gender, sexuality, religion,
morality...it is all the same problem to explore from this perspective.
For the BOYS AND POWER exhibition, I wanted to push my own limits. I
decided to do the thing the got on my nerves so much. An all male show
about men who wield power over others. It felt obnoxious, an epitome
of that which I stand and speak out against. It started with Zachary
Green. He is an artist who works in
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David Keefe
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NOELLE LORRAINE WILLIAMS|The
pieces in the show project isolated images of masculinity and isolation
– not only in their visual composition but also in their relationship
to other subjects (animate and inanimate) and the emotional tenor of
the work.
Artist Kehinde Wiley whose work focuses
on representations of masculinity in portraiture explains "my
perception of painting, which is for me an enterprise about very
powerful men. The history of painting has been the history of those men
trying to position themselves in fields of power that are very defined
and codified as a type of vocabulary that's evolved over time."
ASHA GANPAT|I agree with Wiley's take on the history of painting;
it is both a sad and true thing. Yes, painting has been widely ruled
by portraits of and about powerful men. However, we must remember that
history is not the same as the past. We are fortunate to have artists
like Artemesia Gentileschi slip through the cracks of censure and
suppression to remind us that each painting is a singular struggle of
the painter, not a singular triumph of a powerful man. It is easy to
forget that the works presented by scholars in their Art
History books and museum walls are not unbiased surveys of the past but
instead are only recreated histories where exclusion is integral to
posterity. And that's how you really win this game, you only count if
you are remembered.
Wiley has picked up, so
successfully, the quiet cues of isolation from historical works and
often paints his subjects so large and proud that there would not be
room for anything else in the frame. Wiley's solitude was a different
type than the one experienced by the subjects in the works of the BOYS
AND POWER show. David Keefe's landscapes with double self-portraits
have a lonely, outsider type of solitude. Drawing from his childhood
environs and the aggressive
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"We
are fortunate to have artists like Artemesia Gentileschi slip through
the cracks of censure and suppression to remind us that each painting
is a singular struggle of the painter, not a singular triumph of a
powerful man. " - ASHA GANPAT
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NYUGEN E. SMITH | BUNDLE BOY | 2008
NOELLE LORRAINE WILLIAMS| How
do you feel that isolation and the "heroic" figure play in your choice
of work for the show and our understanding of masculinity in general?
ASHA GANPAT| Is
the hero not always on his or her own? Always surrounded by those who
must be helped or overcome? To answer your question, "hero "is so
subjective. I'm not trying to dodge but I'd like to guess that the
show had fewer heroes than villains. If we asked all of the men
depicted in the show if they were hero or villain, I suspect that the
only one to offer himself as villain would be Albert Einstein.
NOELLE LORRAINE WILLIAMS|Do you think to be a boy or man is antithetical to community?
ASHA GANPAT|I'm
not sure our society knows yet what to do with today's boy. Childhood,
as we know it, has not existed for much more than a century. It is an
ample jump from boy to man, maybe not so far as from girl to woman.
Boys are dismissed while men are heard. Girls have the great
misfortune to be relatively dismissed throughout life if they don't
fight at least a little to be heard. Societal treatment of girls and
women seems more like an evolution when held against the vast
differences between treatment of boys and men. Manhood is largely a
product of socialization. I think that it is a chicken/egg dilemma.
Did manhood construct community as we know it or is it the other way
around?
Nyugen Smith's contribution
to BOYS AND POWER was his first showing of a bundle boy. The sculpture
is of a bundle boy dragging a sled piled high with bits and parts. He
himself is created of the same bits as his load. We have seen his
bundle houses before but never the inhabitants. Smith's decision to
create a male child instead of a grown man seems so necessary. It
introduced us to the potential of the boy instead of the
materialization of a man's deeds. The burden of the boy was amplified
by the metaphors on his sled, i.e. flag. To focus on a single aspect
of the piece, a flag is never just a piece of fabric. It is the
culmination of the will of man to assert himself against others, to
create the "us" and "them."
NOELLE LORRAINE WILLIAMS| Were
there any questions or reactions from the artist's audience in viewing
the work that surprised or compelled you? In what way in your own
curatorial practice does audience engagement fuel or amplify your
praxis?
ASHA GANPAT|I
was surprised by the audience reaction of Kevin Stapp's installations.
Stapp inset quotes on the walls, quotes by men such as Dr. M.L.K. Jr.,
and F.D.R. Many members of the audience were not finding the work on
their own. However, it became part of their charm. When describing
his work, Stapp told me that he has decided not to create any more
objects as art. His Installations became whispers from the past,
nudges, reminders. His were quotes of positivity, inspiration and
warning about how we must not let ourselves become overrun by our
ruling governments. I must say, watching people stare so intently at
walls which seem blank was fun. That aspect was reminiscent of the
situations I like to get people into with my own work.
NOELLE LORRAINE WILLIAMS| Please tell me about your upcoming show "Girls and Weakness" and some of your questions that you are posing in organizing it?
ASHA GANPAT|Unlike
BOYS AND POWER, I do not have a piece which will inspire the rest of
the exhibition. I am not interested in creating a mirror of the prior;
I do not want an exhibition by women about weak women and how they
express it. I am more interested in an exhibition about struggling
with and against the state of weakness, both feminine and general. I
cannot yet envision the next exhibition, but I expect to begin to
solicit visits with artists during this month to see what they are
exploring now.
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Asha
Ganpat is a sculptor who was born in Trinidad, WI and currently
lives/works in New Jersey. She received her B.F.A. from Mason Gross,
Rutgers University and M.F.A. from Montclair State University. Ganpat
has shown at institutions such as the Brooklyn Museum of Art, the
Insitituto di Cultura, Exit Art, The Noyes Museum, Seton Hall
University, The Jersey City Museum and the Nathan Cummings Foundation.
She is a alumni of Aljira's Emerge program and has received the award
of Best In Show for her work in the Metro Show at City Without Walls in
Newark New Jersey. In addition, Ganpat is an adjunct professor of
sculpture at Montclair State University and is co-founder/director of
Red Saw Gallery in Newark.
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About - REDSAW
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RED SAW ART
(DOWNTOWN NEWARK \ Newark Arts District)
585 Broad Street
Newark, NJ 07102
Links
Asha Ganpat
www.ashaganpat.com
Red Saw Art
http://www.redsawart.com/wb/
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